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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 94 18:38:26 PST
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1192
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Sat, 5 Nov 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1192
Today's Topics:
*** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ?
Another Famous Ham
ARRL Sweepstakes exchange
FCC new license processing time...
Help with HTX-202 needed please
IPS Solar and Geophysical Summary - October 94
License Processing Time
mobile hf, centerload,baseload
Need to find supplier of nylon tie-wraps
NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
No License to Extra Leap?
repeaters and intermodulation
Spectrum analyzer as a TV receiver...
WANTED: Current FTP site for radio modification files please!
Warning - PDA Logic problems
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 04:36:48 GMT
From: rkm@vectorbd.com
Subject: *** Q: WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ON THE NET ?
Mike Serafin (serafin@spdc.ti.com) wrote:
: Pierre Didierjean (cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr) wrote:
: : I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net.
: : What are YOU doing in life ?
: : I am a system administrator.
: Chemist by degree, Photolithography Engineer by profession
He posted to every USENET group. I can almost guarantee that he's not
going to read your response. :-)
- Rich
------------------------------
Date: 31 Oct 1994 23:49:34 GMT
From: n9ljx@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott A Stembaugh)
Subject: Another Famous Ham
While watching a Munsterathon Friday night on TBS I found out that Herman was
a Ham!! Shortly after setting it up he had contacted 6 countries (doing his
rendition of some song, I didn't catch the title). Then the next day he was
calling 'Hello CQ Hello CQ over'. His call was W6XRL4. And according to
Grandpa the rig cost over $400.
The episode was 'When Mars calls don't hang up'
--scott n9ljx@ecn.purdue.edu
--
Scott Stembaugh - N9LJX internet: n9ljx@ecn.purdue.edu
Operations Supervisor, ADPC phone: 317 494 7946
Purdue University
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1061
------------------------------
Date: 5 Nov 1994 07:58:33 -0700
From: rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: ARRL Sweepstakes exchange
rfm@urth.eng.sun.com (Richard McAllister) writes:
>Thoughts while programming the keyer...
>Why is the ARRL Sweepstakes exchange so very long? And what was the
>original reason for the QSO counter? Surely it predates fancy keyers,
>so it can't be just a plot by keyer manufacturers to increase sales.
>Rich, KO6CL [out to crack the 4 QSO per hour barrier this time for sure
]
>--
>Rich McAllister (rfm@eng.sun.com)
The SS exchange long?
Wow.
It used to be you had to send a complete __message__ as the exchange.
The purpose is to keep the contest from being a 5NN TU 73 exchange.
--
rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu Robert Davis Salina, KS
Amateur Radio K0FPC
------------------------------
Date: 1 Nov 1994 05:23:45 GMT
From: Joe Herman <slammy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu>
Subject: FCC new license processing time...
Well, Just to add to that - I took my license exam 9/11 In Monsey, NY
and I have yet to recieve my license. That's about 7 weeks. I'll give it
another weeks then I'll give the trusty FCC 1-800 # a call...
Just to quash the hopes of others awaiting their licenses...;)
---
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Joseph Herman |Thought is useless unless accompanied by action-
- herman@yu1.yu.edu |Action is useless unless preceeded by thought -
- a196@lehigh.edu | -
- slammy@chop.isca.uiowa.edu |EMT, postpunk, ham radio, fencing, 'blades -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:43:18 GMT
From: dara@physics.att.com (Shel Darack)
Subject: Help with HTX-202 needed please
TOM SUNMAN (tomsunman@aol.com) wrote:
: Also, When attempting to store a calling frequency I press CA and 146.000
: keeps coming up on the display. I can't seem to store the frequency I want
: in the memory. The freq I want to store doesn't require a subaudible tone.
: Tom
Follow the steps exactly in your manual...the display will not
change until you finish. If you still have trouble, I will
read to you from my manual but it is normal for the display to
read 146.000 until you complete all the steps.
You skipped something. Really.
Shel WA2UBK
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 04:18:26 GMT
From: rwc@flare.syd.ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre)
Subject: IPS Solar and Geophysical Summary - October 94
SUBJ: IPS MONTHLY REPORT - OCTOBER 1994
ISSUED BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
1. SOLAR-GEOPHYSICAL INDICES
SOLAR MAGNETIC AUST
Day 10 cm flux A-INDEX T INDEX
01 Oct 75 3 26
02 Oct 75 12 26
03 Oct 74 47 24
04 Oct 75 23 -19
05 Oct 79 25 -18
06 Oct 84 23 -29
07 Oct 84 28 -30
08 Oct 86 15 1
09 Oct 87 11 22
10 Oct 87 14 16
11 Oct 88 21 -14
12 Oct 88 12 -20
13 Oct 93 10 6
14 Oct 93 7 21
15 Oct 93 9 16
16 Oct 91 5 18
17 Oct 92 4 26
18 Oct 90 3 35
19 Oct 91 7 35
20 Oct 90 7 32
21 Oct 88 1 27
22 Oct 86 18 37
23 Oct 84 37 15
24 Oct 82 24 15
25 Oct 89 8 -21
26 Oct 93 8 7
27 Oct 93 4 38
28 Oct 97 2 41
29 Oct 98 34 43
30 Oct 98 32 -13
31 Oct 97 32 11
10 CM FLUX SUNSPOT NUMBER A-INDEX AUST FLARES
T INDEX
Monthly Monthly Yearly Monthly Monthly >M1.0
Month Average Average Average Average Average
Oct 94 87.7 43.8 15.7 12.1 1
Sep 94 78.6 26.7 10.5 24.8 0
Aug 94 76.1 22.8 8.9 23.5 8
Jul 94 80.5 35.0 12.5 31.1 1
Jun 94 77.2 28.1 15.0 33.8 1
May 94 79.8 18.2 21.5 27.5 0
Apr 94 79.0 16.7 34.0 21.0 34.7 0
Mar 94 90.5 31.7 34.3 17.5 36.9 0
Feb 94 99.5 35.9 34.8 22.5 38.0 2
Jan 94 115.0 58.8 36.6 12.4 60.2 11
Dec 93 104.9 49.4 38.4 10.4 56.4 8
Nov 93 95.8 34.8 41.0 11.7 50.0 3
Oct 93 100.2 55.4 44.7 11.6 31.3 3
IPS Predicted (Yearly Smoothed) Sunspot Numbers for May 1994-April 1995
Month May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr
SSN 33.0 31.2 28.4 26.0 24.8 24.2 24.2 23.6 22.2 21.0 20.2 18.4
Latest T-Indices for IPS Advanced Stand-Alone Prediction System-(ASAPS)
Last update: August 1994 Solar-Geophysical Summary
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1988 45 43 58 74 72 84 84 95 115 132 116 128
1989 147 164 135 140 141 157 162 149 144 160 164 152
1990 150 128 135 129 126 138 136 138 141 136 122 133
1991 143 175 169 163 136 121 141 125 135 131 121 130
1992 152 172 156 134 95 79 89 66 68 68 85 90
1993 75 78 81 65 64 65 61 48 36 41 35 42
1994 55 37* 36* 35* 33* 32* 29* 26* 24* 22* 21* 19*
1995 18* 18* 17* 16* 15* 14* 14* 13* 12* 11* 11* 10*
1996 10* 9* 9* 8* 8* 8* 8* 9* 9* 10* 11* 12*
1997 13* 15* 17* 19* 21* 23* 26* 30* 33* 38* 43* 48*
Asterisk indicates predicted value.
For information concerning ASAPS for an IBM PC (or compatible) contact IPS.
The IPS Monthly T-index is derived from the observed monthly median values
of foF2 for each hour at up to 40 ionospheric stations worldwide.
These records become available from IPS stations in Australia very soon after
each month, but the majority are received up to one year later.
This means that the exact observed value of the monthly T-index is not
available until some months later.
The predicted smoothed monthly T-indices are computed by using a statistical
analysis of the observed monthly T-indices for all solar cycles since 1938.
The IPS T-indices may not be updated each month but only when sufficient new
data becomes available.
===============================================================================
2. FLARES AND SHORT-WAVE FADEOUTS
All M flares with an energy greater than or equal to M1 are tabulated under
class M flares.
However, times of fade-outs are shown only for flares with an energy greater
than X-ray class M3.
DATE CLASS M CLASS X FADEOUT POSSIBLE
FLARES FLARES ON DAYLIGHT CIRCUIT
19 Oct 1 2047-2201 UT
2.1 Comments on Solar Activity.
Solar activity was moderate on 19 October with an M3.2/1F at 2127 UT.
Very low to low activity was observed at other times. A C4.7/0F flare
was observed at 1009 UT on 25 October. This flare is mentioned as
it is believed to be associated with a coronal mass ejection (CME) and
proton enhancement, which was unusual considering the size of the event.
The 10cm flux showed an overall rise in values, beginning the month at 75
and finishing the month at 97.
===============================================================================
3. GEOMAGNETIC DISTURBANCES (for Learmonth, WA)
DATE COMMENTS
2-7 October Field increased to major storm levels during local
night on 3 October. Minor storm levels were observed
during local night during the interval 5-7 October.
Disturbance was associated with a coronal hole.
11 October Disturbance observed in northern hemisphere, mostly
unsettled at Learmonth.
22-23 October Sudden impulse observed in the field at 1215 UT on 22
October. Minor storm periods observed during local
night on 23 October. Disturbance was associated with
flare/CME and a coronal hole.
29-31 October Major storm levels observed during local night on 29
October. Active to minor storm levels observed
30 October, and during local night on 31 October.
Disturbance was associated with flare/CME and a
coronal hole.
3.1 Comments on Geomagnetic Activity.
Several disturbances were observed during the month of October. The highest
A index for the month was 47 observed on 3 October.
===============================================================================
4. IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCES (for Sydney)
DATE MUFs
3 October MUFs were depressed 30% during local night.
4-8 October MUFs were depressed 20-30%, during the interval 4-7 October,
recovering slowly on the 8th.
11-13 October MUFs were depressed 20%, during the interval 11-12 October.
MUFs recovered during local night on 13 October.
25-26 October MUFs were 15-20% depressed all day on 25 October, recovering
on 26 October.
30-31 October MUFs were 15-30% depressed during this interval.
4.1 Comments on Ionospheric Conditions.
Propagation conditions during the month of October were degraded by frequent
ionospheric disturbances.
===============================================================================
5. IPS WARNINGS AND ALERTS ISSUED
WARNINGS:
GEOMAG
WARNING NO ISSUE TIME ISSUE DATE BEGIN END
5 2337 UT 01 Oct 94 04 Oct 94 06 Oct 94
6 2255 UT 11 Oct 94 12 Oct 94 14 Oct 94
7 0105 UT 22 Oct 94 22 Oct 94 24 Oct 94
8 0130 UT 27 Oct 94 27 Oct 94 04 Nov 94
HF RADIO
WARNING NO ISSUE TIME ISSUE DATE BEGIN END
3 0012 UT 02 Oct 94 04 Oct 94 06 Oct 94
4 2336 UT 10 Oct 94 11 Oct 94 11 Oct 94
5 2304 UT 11 Oct 94 12 Oct 94 14 Oct 94
6 0109 UT 22 Oct 94 22 Oct 94 24 Oct 94
7 2354 UT 24 Oct 94 25 Oct 94 25 Oct 94
8 2246 UT 25 Oct 94 26 Oct 94 26 Oct 94
9 0224 UT 27 Oct 94 27 Oct 94 04 Nov 94
ALERTS:
DATE OF ISSUE TYPE OF ALERT
04 Oct Magnetic
23 Oct Proton
24 Oct Magnetic
30 Oct Magnetic
31 Oct Magnetic
31 Oct Magnetic
DATE SWF BEGIN-END (UT)
None Issued.
--
IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |PO Box 5606
Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |AUSTRALIA
------------------------------
Date: 4 Nov 1994 10:06:16 -0500
From: wb2mpk@gti.gti.net (Glen Johnson)
Subject: License Processing Time
It looks like the Great Wait is just about gone.
I passed my Extra on 9/29 . The VE Team sent the paperwork to the VEC on
10/3. VEC sent the paperwork to Gettysburg on 10/13. License effective
date is 10/25, mailed from Gettysburg on 10/31, and arrived here on 11/2.
So the FCC had the 610 a grand total of 10 business days.
If you give the VE team a week, and the VEC a week, you should see your
license about 4 weeks from the test date. Odd that it took Gettysburg a
week to mail license after it was printed though.
------------------------------
Date: 5 Nov 1994 13:26:47 GMT
From: moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de ()
Subject: mobile hf, centerload,baseload
>All that I have read states center loaded antennas are better because of
>the current distrution along the whip being higher than with a baseloaded type.
>
Ken,
Theoreticaly this is correct, now in real world things look
quite different. Those slim center loading coils often found
in commercial design make tuning simple, since they effectively
absorb transmitted power.
For good signals you want to get a whip as long as your car can
support or the laws permit and use a really beefy loading coil,
with a diam. of 3" or more. for obvious mechanical reasons this
will have to go to the bottom.
Good luck, Moritz DL5UH
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 04:33:04 GMT
From: schmidt@sable.adelphi.edu (JOHN SCHMIDT)
Subject: Need to find supplier of nylon tie-wraps
In article <395pd0$2d2@news.ysu.edu>, ao944@yfn.ysu.edu (Jack Decker) writes:
>
> A friend is looking for a wholesale supplier of nylon tie-wraps - he
> particularly needs longer sizes (11" or more). Someone mentioned a
> company called Modular Devices which is supposedly somewhere in New York
> state, but they didn't have a city or phone number. I'm wondering if
> anyone could give me a lead to this company, or else another wholesale
> supplier of these tie wraps.
Most any electronics supply house carries these
Newark Electronics has several brands. See Thomas & Betts, they have them up
to something greater than 30 inches long.
>
> Please reply via e-mail if possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jack
>
> Jack Decker | "What were once options are now mandates!"
> aa931@detroit.freenet.org =or= ao944@yfn.ysu.edu (that's an "o", not a zero!)
> "Why are insurance companies allowed to discriminate against certain
> classes of people, when no other business can get away with it?"
--
*******************************************************************************
John H. Schmidt, P.E. note change>|Internet: schmidt@sable.adelphi.edu
Technical Director, WBAU |Phone--Days (212)456-4218
Adelphi University | Evenings (516)877-6400
Garden City, New York 11530 |Fax-------------(212)456-2424
*******************************************************************************
------------------------------
Date: 3 Nov 1994 17:41:05 -0800
From: rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fri)
Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
Steve Wolf (sww@csuohio.edu) wrote:
: But is is broadcasting none the less.
: I think it was Todd Little that that quoted the definition of broadcasting.
: From Part 97.3(a) ... (10) ... Broadcasting - Transmissions intended for
: reception by the general public, either direct or relayed.
: Clearly, a BBS phone port with a annonymous check-in allows the public access
: to relayed transmissions. There are LOTS of phone ports that allow
: anonymous check-ins.
: So, originators of bulletins which are sent by any means to a BBS that has
: a public phone port that are not about amateur radio would fall under
: broadcasting.
: Broadcasting does not require a one-way transmission. It would appear that
: an ax.25 connection between two stations can still be use for broadcasting.
: (Bet we are going to move on and say that a bulletin about quilting was
: targeted solely at the amateur population. Let me guess ... ANY bulletin
: entered on packet is to be assumed to be aimed solely at the amateur radio
: population.)
I can't tell if I am a victim of dry Cleaveland humor or you are truly
serious...
In the event you are serious in your interpretations of the rules, do you
plan to close down your operations on tcp/ip and public pbbs stations?
Following your logic even a personal third party message in transit
through your stations that could be seen by a non-amateur scanner
enthusiast with a tnc would then be considered broadcasting. Many members
of the All Ohio Scanner Club use tncs for entertainment and information
gathering. Since it is your station that is being received by the public.
why is the originating station in California guilty of Broadcasting?
I hope you never have to provide emergency message service to the public
during a disaster. Many amateur groups set up packet stations at Malls to
provide Health and Welfare messages to the public so they can contact
family and friends outside the disaster area. This is an Amateur Service
that has always provided good will to the public. Doing this in front of
the public and even allowing the public to type their short messages into
a computer is a broadcasting violation of your interpretation. Are you sure?
Most of us try to interpret the rules to allow us the most latitude in
_operating_ our stations even bending them a little to allow new modes of
communications.
Hank is right when he talks about unconnected UI frames. I have seen many
Beacon Broadcasts that could be reasonably called broadcasts as defined.
These beacons are generaly of the non amateur _Save our State_ or _Jesus
Saves_ or _Pro Gun_ types of quasi-political slogans. This is the area
that the OOs and ARRL need to address and educate within our ranks.
Lets see ... I have set my Beacon Text to _Cookies are good with Milk_ and
I am digipeating this every seven minutes through four digipeaters in the
area. Who is violating which rules?
Bob
--
Bob Wilkins work bwilkins@cave.org
Berkeley, California home rwilkins@ccnet.com
94701-0710 play n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam
------------------------------
Date: 31 Oct 1994 20:27:45 -0700
From: markm@glock.ramp.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: No License to Extra Leap?
Well, I went from nothing to General in one step...missed the Advanced by
only a couple questions...didn't expect to get that far so hadn't even
read the Advanced manual. At the same session a guy went from nothing to
Extra. This was at an ARRL session in Flagstaff, AZ about 4 years ago.
I read in an ARRL VE manual that it happens a dozen or so times a year
in ARRL sessions.
Not real common but certainly not unheard of.
73... Mark AA7TA
------------------------------
Date: 5 Nov 1994 01:25:34 GMT
From: ESPI35E@prodigy.com (ROD LANE )
Subject: repeaters and intermodulation
>
>One of my repeaters I help with just got a bad case of intermodulation.
>It appears that the repeater's own transmitter contributes to the
problem
>somewhat, as the reciver only hears it when the transmitter is keyed.
>
>Didn't I read an intermodulation artical in a QST a few years back?
Does
>anyone have any good references or suggestions?
>
>73, Allen Wallace N7CGH
It's very possible that it may just be a bad desense problem. Check the
notches in the duplexer to make sure that they are properly aligned. If
you don't know how to align the duplexer, be sure to find someone who
does. You can get yourself into serious trouble and even cause equipment
damage if you don't know what you're doing.
Another problem might be that you need a ferrite isolator for your
transmitter/amplifier. The signals from outside your system may be
coming down the antenna and mixing in your own equipment to create the
problem.
Just two ideas.....
73 de N1FNE
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:15:57 PST
From: Ted_Eugene_Viens@cup.portal.com
Subject: Spectrum analyzer as a TV receiver...
Ed Ellers writes...
><moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de> writes:
>
>>When I first read this thread, I thought it was a typo,
>>because converting a TV to a spectrum analyser seems
>>more of a usefull home brew project..
>
>I've heard of using a TV *tuner* as a spectrum analyzer -- you'd use a
>voltage-tuned job, preferably cable-ready (so it wouldn't have a gap between
>88 and 174 MHz), with the AGC line fed a fixed bias and the output fed into a
>narrow IF and detector at about 46 MHz. Feed a voltage sweep into the control
>line and sync the scope to it, and you get a spectral display.
>
We have to be a little careful here. Sure, using Zero Span on the visual
carrier, AM demod folded back into intensity control, some vertical control
may make this possible (maybe) but it sure is a lot easier to get option 10
for the Tek 2710 or 2712 SA's. This, of course, is the TV demodulator option
that lets you view the video on the CRT. I think HP has provided a similar
option for their CATV specific SA's also...
Bye... Ted..
------------------------------
Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:48:47 -0500
From: mc@shore.net (Michael Crestohl)
Subject: WANTED: Current FTP site for radio modification files please!
I've seen this posted here several times but........
Can anyone please post or e-mail me some FTP sites that have good
collections of modifications for ham rigs and scanners?
Muchly appreciated.
73,
Michael Crestohl KH6KD/W1
mc@shore.net
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 94 13:05:37 MST
From: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Subject: Warning - PDA Logic problems
bsplaine@dogxray.sr.hp.com (Bill Splaine) writes:
> types of logging software, I have to say this is the best by far (for my
> purposes which is general logging/mostly dxing/some contesting.
>
> You might switch due to your problem/irritation, but you won't find a better
> software or support.........73 de Bill
I echo your sentiment about the support, I've had excellent help from
Dennis with some odd problems on my system ...
However, I also find the key disk an irritant ... I run Logic 4 DOS under
Desqview, and the smallest change on my system causes the irritable
"insert license disk" ... with all the hundred's of dollars worth of
software on my system, this is the only one that is copyprotected in any
format, and the only one the I find I have constantly put the key disk in
for.
Otherwise, I've been very very happy with it as a logging program.
david
---
Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165
Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
------------------------------
Date: 5 Nov 1994 13:36:08 GMT
From: billsohl@earth.planet.net (Bill Sohl Budd Lake)
References<5I43j6Y.wcoyle@delphi.com> <391f98$ipr@newsbf01.news.aol.com>, <396cj0$g6d@wizard.uark.edu>
Subject: Question Pools, was Re: No code Techs and CW...
Peter Laws (plaws@comp..uark.edu) wrote:
: On an related note, has anyone ever studied the effect that the Public
: Domain Q&A pools has had on the hobby? We've had, what? 10 years of
: experience with them? Seems to me it cheapens the whole hobby.
While they may have been derived from a different process, the availability
of sample test questions has been around since at least the early 1950's
when I was first studying to be a novice. I bought the AMECO study
guide which contained hundreds of actual FCC questions from tests.
I surmise that AMECO and other study guide prooducers generated their
question lists from people that had taken the exam and at least
remembered several test questions. Get several hundred test questions
that way and you probably had most, if not all, of the existing
question pool being used at that time...even if the actual question
pool wasn't publicly available.
I've said this before: As a teenager I memorized a good portion
of the test questions. No, I didn't memorize that the answer
to a specific question would be "C", rather I memorized that
the answer to a particular question was a certain answer. In
fact, today's theory tests still involve a great deal of pure
rote meorization. What "theory" or logic is there to knowing
what the novice subband frequencies are? ...None, the only way
to know that is by pure memorization. The same is true for
much of the FCC regulations (although some of the stuff is
pretty much common sense too).
--
Bill Sohl K2UNK (billsohl@planet.net)
Budd Lake, New Jersey
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End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #1192
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